We met 4 times and I can tell they might be such a strong personality to deal with. Anyway I needed the money so thought whatever let’s do it.

Gave verbal go ahead.

And then during contract signing, they were soooo nitpicky especially I gave them a pretty good deal plus the payment terms from there side was bad. Basically it was going to be a lot of take from there side.

I thought about it and ended up calling it quits with them in a professional manner. They sat they are disappointed but I think I dodged a bullet.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

Lesson learned if its not a hell yes dont do it.

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    Awesome that you put your boundaries out there and kept people from stepping over them! Imagine how much time you will save to do something valuable if you can spot such a client earlier in the process next time.

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    Firing clients is one of the most effective business lessons I’ve learned. Bad clients end up increasing your cost of doing business, which effectively cuts into your margins. Revenue tends to go up a few months after you get rid of a bad client, in my experience.

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      I will never forget the first client I should have fired.

      Never again will I deal with that. I will eat a loss to avoid that nightmare.

      A few months after that incident, I refused to do work for someone. They ended up going to my friend. My friend called me up and asked why I didn’t refer the client to him. I told him I didn’t get a good vibe from the client. My friend got better vibes. Started work. Ended up having a ton of change orders that the client signed off on. Then, he refused to pay because it wasn’t in the original contract. Turned out to be a huge ordeal. My friend wound up losing a ton of money on that job to “do right by the customer” I felt so bad for my friend. We agreed to head eachothers warnings after that.

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    I have nothing against firing the customer here or there, that’s not the whole story for too many. For one thing, people tend to broadcast their bottom-feeding ways and attract more than their share of chiseling, bitchy clients.

    Nobody knows what is going on in this instance. The type of discussion suffers from a one-dimensional perspective which is no different than an employee’s us-versus-them mentality. The poverty of imagination is showing.

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    Good! Had a similar situation with a customer recently that was just berating me over customer support chat for an issue that was completely out of my control. Tried my best to help him, but in the end I had to fire that customer.

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    This reminds me of how Simon Sinek teaches that even when we choose our 6 clients we should choose them with our “why?” In mind.

    We should only choose to work with people who resonate with the purpose of our business. It should not just be about the money because we will end up compromizing our own vision.

    Good on you!

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    Generally in my experience the ones that try to fuck you on the contract will try to fuck you the whole contract long.

    They are absolutely not worth working with.

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      I agree! Also people that try to lower the price or are in desperate financially situation are the worse clients.

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    Yea you probably dodged a lot of stress with this one. It’s tough to make that decision, but your mental wellbeing is priceless.

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    if it’s not a hell, yes, dont do it.

    Well said.

    Also, trust your gut. Sadly, when you need money these kinds of people can sense it.

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    I turned down a 20k project recently because of a very similar circumstance. The lead wanted a full refund clause among other things and I denied. After back and forth, they weren’t willing to meet in the middle and I rejected the project. Good on you!