I am a single founder working on a consumer mobile app for the past 2.5 years. Primarily working on the apps retention rate to try to get some semblance of product market fit. Then when I do, going to focus on growing revenue. I have been working basically full-time on this app since my main job doesn’t take up much of my time.

I’ve held off on raising money so far, partly because I see no point in raising money unless I can hire at least 2 app developers which I estimate to require at least $500,000 in funding to do so. I don’t believe I can raise this amount. (Correct me if I’m wrong, I’ve never raised money before)

If I can only raise enough money to pay myself + expenses (<$120,000 in funding) then I might as well stay at my main job and continue working full time.

However, I’ve recently been asking myself a few questions.

Can I just hire app developer contractors instead of app developer employees for cheaper to reduce how much I need to raise?

How much do I need to raise to hire at least 2 app developer contractors?

How much can I realistically raise for my business?

If I could hire only one app developer contractor/employee would that be worth it to raise money and quit my job?

Hoping you guys could guide me in my situation. :)

My Apps 6 Month Retention - 10%
My Apps Monthly Revenue - $500 (Have not focused on this as much as retention)

TL;DR - Single founder, working on mobile app for 2.5 years. Only want to raise money if I can hire a few app developers. Not sure I can raise minimum amount I need to hire a few app developers.

  • Focus_Forge@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Most of my experience is in the realm of physical products, but one workaround that helped was going to universities and hiring students part-time. Because I technically had students in my team, I could sign up for student business competitions to raise equity-free capital. Use that to see where the app goes and like another commenter said, if you’re seeing traction, you will become more appealing to potential investors.

  • Swimming_Radish_Fish@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Considering your focus on retention, have you considered the middle ground of hiring app developer contractors for specific projects? It could be a more budget-friendly option. As for funding, maybe start with a smaller goal, prove the concept, and then aim for the stars. Remember, it’s not just about the money raised but how wisely you spend it. Best of luck navigating the startup rollercoaster! PS: try rocketdevs.com for hiring developers for cheap, i got mine from there.

  • t0pout@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    So you have 10% retention and the app generated 500/mo in rev, estimating appx 6000/yr in rev, and you want to spend 250k per person on devs?

    Wtf?

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    1 year ago

    Agree with above comments, maybe reframe the question to what you want to achieve by when, then ask who/how/how much $.

    Also consider bringing on a hands on partner for equity vs driving solo with expensive resources.

  • cyb_tachyon@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    No, not for you specifically. Here’s what I would do instead:

    1. Decide if you’re building a rocketship for VC’s, or a more sustainable slower growth business where angels/customers might invest.
    2. If there’s VC-level potential, create a 5 page pitch deck showing your problem, thesis, goal, and current #'s.
    3. Get warm intros to VC’s, as many as you can. Don’t cold email unless they’re on one of those the “cold emails please” list.
    4. Say you plan on raising a round in 6 months or so, and, if they have the time, would love to get their advice on the sorts of growth milestones and KPI’s you should be keeping in mind to have the sort of rocket ship growth to a billion dollar company.
    5. Use the advice and your customer’s feedback to pivot, pivot again, and pivot to find the serious traction needed to identify a possible product-market fit.
    6. With those #'s, find a co-founder using YCombinator or one of the many co-founder tools out there, date around, and then pick one.
    7. Now, six months or more later, you’re ready to start the process of raising. Expect it to take 3-10 months if you haven’t done it before, there’s a lot of specific sales type skills you need to develop to do it successfully.

    Good luck!

  • bdawg8527@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    What your business is worth and what you could raise is based on your income or a realistic future income. The chance of an app going from $500 in revenue to being able to generate 1 million so a 500k investment has a return is extremely low and you’re not going to find any investors.

    You gotta get your revenue up to take on investment unless you know some friends family or fools to invest based on just you. Otherwise debt would be your other option take a loan against your assets if you’re sure you will be able to pay it back and do it and retain all the company.

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    1 year ago

    Well the first question everyone asks on shark tank is ~ what’s your revenue?

    You probably get ~ I’m out you’re not there yet!

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    1 year ago

    Well the first question everyone asks on shark tank is ~ what’s your revenue?

    You probably get ~ I’m out you’re not there yet!

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    1 year ago

    What your business is worth and what you could raise is based on your income or a realistic future income. The chance of an app going from $500 in revenue to being able to generate 1 million so a 500k investment has a return is extremely low and you’re not going to find any investors.

    You gotta get your revenue up to take on investment unless you know some friends family or fools to invest based on just you. Otherwise debt would be your other option take a loan against your assets if you’re sure you will be able to pay it back and do it and retain all the company.

  • CSCAnalytics@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    There are about 1,000,000 potential other factors that need to be considered to answer your question. Plus weeks of financial analysis.

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    1 year ago

    There are about 1,000,000 potential other factors that need to be considered to answer your question. Plus weeks of financial analysis.

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    1 year ago

    $500MRR is too low. retention of 10% = 90% of ppl leave within 6mths.

    look at customer LTV.

    better not fundraise right now. if you need to raise 500k… what % of equity would be give? since that dictates valuation.

    so lets say you give 20% (which is a f*ck of a lot) - you’d be suggesting your business is valued at $2.5mil

    given $500 MRR = $6000ARR

    so thats a multiple of 416x

    just for context, a typical multiple for a margin business is closer to 5x, startups can go to around 20x

    have you considered part time or agency devs to keep that cost down?

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    1 year ago

    $500MRR is too low. retention of 10% = 90% of ppl leave within 6mths.

    look at customer LTV.

    better not fundraise right now. if you need to raise 500k… what % of equity would be give? since that dictates valuation.

    so lets say you give 20% (which is a f*ck of a lot) - you’d be suggesting your business is valued at $2.5mil

    given $500 MRR = $6000ARR

    so thats a multiple of 416x

    just for context, a typical multiple for a margin business is closer to 5x, startups can go to around 20x

    have you considered part time or agency devs to keep that cost down?