I noticed from another post that there are many with technical coding skills looking to match extra income, but don’t know how.
On the flip side, I’d love to hire some coders for freelance for a wage I can afford and you would be happy with.
So, testing the waters to see what is out there.
I have been sitting on many ideas for years because I don’t have 30-50k to drop on an app.
I continually generate new ideas.
Open to numerous different pay types/partnerships/etc
Open to numerous different pay types/partnerships/etc
If by this, you mean someone that will code all your ideas and you two can split the profits. That does not exist.
I used to work for MTV, yeah the video music giant. I was a web developer for one of their sites. Not only that, but I do not code much(I do a little Python that is it). The site was a Content Management System, like Wordpress, so it was easy to run.
Every week, someone, thinking I could code, which I can’t, would tell me that they have ideas and that if I coded them, we could split the profits.
In business, someone make the products and someone sells it.
Either you are in production (software engineering) or you are in sales (Marketing etc).
A guy, with nothing but an idea, has no value.
I have a substantial sales and management background. At tesla my ideas were rolled out nationwide, and over the 3 years I was there, I made significant impact. At my previous roles, it was the same.
In terms of sales, I am a master. Innovation, I have proven to be a top asset, I won’t consider myself a master at that until I’ve made innovation from a business I launch, though in terms of a corporate innovator, I mastered that.
Marketing I have been doing as long as sales, and more of a natural marketer than I am at sales. I’m consider my level to be above average, but not yet mastered.
That said, even though I’ve mastered sales, a true master remains a student for life, don’t get it twisted.
I also have pretty decent business network at well.
TLDR: I am much more qualified and with a proven track record, that those random individuals.
That said.
Most ideas suck. The one that doesn’t suck can still fail with bad management and marketing.
While partnership do and can exist, they are more rare and take a degree of trust/vetting/proper contract. I can you tell you though, if I did find one, we’d both be very rich.
Regarding pay types: I would be equally as hesitant to give up any % of ownership or profits as a dev would be to partner 50/50. It would take more selling on their part, as I know the potential value, as the entrepreneur willing to take the risk.
Risk/reward.
That being said, there is then flat rate as well flat plus bonus.
As you can see many people have varying prices and skills.
Everyone listing their flat rate. ( I imagine the top rates are high level individuals just humble flexing and not interested in side work. Other are top level, and would take a side job if it met their standard but they are not really looking.
Then, you have the people who listed the rate they make at work/ some slightly above.
You then have your businesses. Most of which badly trying to market and sale over priced services ( or market rate)
I am familiar enough with this industry and employee pay to know when an offer has a large profit margin attached. Which is fine, depending on the output and the performance.
In all things, there will be a sweet spot. I actually think the meeting I set in the first hour of this post I will be hiring and develop a long relationship with. They are 2 individuals in a small startup.
You know, pretty much every big idea, most sit on the side of inaction because they do not see the vision of the entrepreneur.
That’s why their is the visionary, and then the guy with the technical knowledge. Sure, one could do both, but with the rise of ai, it is and will continue to be more rare. When an entrepreneur could instead work on his public speaking , sales and marketing skills.
That said, I plan to slim launch 2 local businesses.
The software/app developed for either, can not only work for the business, but also be an asset that be can be resold. ( if I decide to)
There surely is many devs out of work, or with lots of free time, that could and should partner with entrepreneurs to launch projects.
It’s unlikely the dev will come up with the innovative idea, and unlikely the upcoming entrepreneur can afford them.
In this case, I do have some money, and can afford to pay, and would prefer to pay to maintain profits.
Any dev can throw out a number, it doesn’t mean it’s a realistic market rate.
One could say $50/hr, another $100 hour, another $25 an hour.
The price they ask for is usually disconnected from the quality and skill they bring to the table.
Either the individual is worth the money and it’s a steal, or they are vastly over quoting their own work, and never going to get any side income. ( ironically those are the devs who should be partnering for free as they’ll never make a side buck)
I agree, the vast majority of “ideas” or potential partnerships will mean nothing, but there will be also be people who succeed.
I can handle proper value analysis of the people posting in terms of evaluating their rate for services offered.
Being a free market, I will land on a team who matches my target pay rates, that can also perform what’s needed.
If and when we reach a future project they can not handle, I will go up the ladder.
There is also then pay rate + bonus.
I make the offer on the rate, and we negotiate bonus. In this type of pay, the net pay would exceed the original ask price, if the platform succeeded, it would be the dev taking a personal stake in the project.
For most projects, not likely to find someone.
But it may be the right fit for someone with a 300k + salary who wants to invest in the startup space.
Ultimately, once funds start flowing in, the value perspective diminishes its relevance in the face or more funds, and other devs then become options.
Don’t mean to derail this thread.
I’ve talked to several developers and a question that came up was
“Do you have a more concrete idea about the projects?”
All I had told him was that I wanted two types of apps. You know, in general, one app that is like Reddit and one that is like ebay or whatever.(I just made those up, but you get the idea)
When asked about more concrete idea, what exactly does a developer want?
Please be specific.
So, there two levels of what one could provide.
Bare minimum they want
1- a roadmap. ( a breakdown of app features, think of a instruction manual for the app builder )
2- which is even better, I forget the term for it, but if you can actually visualize and draw out the ui for then, even better.
That said. If you asked for basic knockoffs, they really should already have the majority of the info they need.
If it’s a new custom app I understand, but to get serious with any development you should provide 1 or both.
That helps a lot.
I just did not know if there was a specification template or form or something.
I now know what they want, and I will send it to them.
Thanks
Full stack dev primarily working with Laravel as my backend language I charge $55/ hourly or project based
$30 per hour.
Full-stack freelance web developer. TypeScript/NextJS/ReactJS on frontnd, Python/Django on backend.
Located in EU.
LinkedIn with CV and last projects: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimadk24/
Hey full stack developer here. I generally don’t charge per hour because I believe that dis-incentives efficient working and I love working efficiently. I will do everything from prototyping , app design to building front end , backend , GitHub CD/CI and automations, to deployment. I recently built like an app for selling events, and birthday itinerary for less than $5K (everything included from idea to deployment) and that guy loves me and gives me more project. Also I ask for payment as and when I build features , so you pay per stage in development journey so you know how much you are paying for what. If you are interested I can share you some of my work and we can talk on this.
10$ per hour i am a full stack developer proficient in mern stack and nextjs with the knowledge of typescript and react-native I can handle a complete project from frontend to backend (small and mid) for big projects please dm me
I would like to know more about the ideas you have. We can come up with some arrangements… DM me??